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15:01 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Edward Shryane has begun the presentation "Operational Update RIPE Database"
15:02 < luna> Slides not changing
15:02 < Cynthia> ^
15:03 < rsc> Alvaro_ChatMonitor: ^
15:03 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Yes, I'm asking for this
15:03 < rsc> Thanks :)
15:03 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> You're welcome :-)
15:04 < Cynthia> it is not changing again
15:04 < Cynthia> Alvaro_ChatMonitor: ^
15:05 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Yes, asking again
15:17 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Edward Shryane has asked for questions
15:18 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> The presentation has ended.
15:18 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Edward Shryane has begun the presentation "Cloud Migration".
15:18 < Cynthia> I had a comment in the Q&A section
15:19 < Cynthia> Alvaro_ChatMonitor: please remind William to check the Q&A for the next time
15:20 < pasha> I prefer in-house maintenance over lost-in cloud.
15:21 < pasha> But let's see :)
15:21 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> @Cynthia sure, will do
15:21 < Cynthia> ty
15:21 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> He answered you
15:21 < Cynthia> yep I saw :)
15:21 < jbond42> Alvaro_ChatMonitor: Q: sorry if i missed it but is there a short list of cloud providers being considered?
15:22 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> @jbond42, Could you write your name and organisation please?
15:22 * jbond42 john bond wikimedia foundation
15:23 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> @jbond42 Thank you, I have passed your question to the Session Chair in the Q&A on Zoom
15:23 < jbond42> Alvaro_ChatMonitor: thanks
15:29 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Edward Shryane has asked for questions.
15:33 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> The presentation has ended.
15:33 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Michael Kafka has begun the presentation "PII Privacy Leak in descr: attributes".
15:39 < pasha> Well, it looks like Michael's LIR just decided to add descr fields, I think only one is required afaik.
15:40 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> @pasha Do you want the Session Chair to read this out? If so, Could you write your name and organisation please?
15:41 < pasha> Alvaro_ChatMonitor: no, just making an assumption, need to verify that before.
15:42 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> OK, no problem :-)
15:43 < luna> maybe RIPE should give the LIRs more access to modify all fields ?
15:44 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> @luna Do you want the Session Chair to read this out? If so, Could you write your name and organisation please?
15:45 < pasha> Assumption confirmed :P
15:46 < luna> Alvaro_ChatMonitor: nope its fine to only have it in the irc, thanks anyways
15:46 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> OK, no problem
15:46 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> Michael Kafka has asked for questions.
15:48 < job> i think we can close NWI-3
15:49 < job> (this doesn't need to be read out, i typed it as Denis suggested to take it to the mailing list :-)
15:49 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> @job O, thanks for clarifying :-)
15:52 < Alvaro_ChatMonitor> This session has now ended.
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15:01:49 From Luna : Slides not changing
15:01:59 From Hank Nussbacher : slides not moving
15:02:25 From Vladislav Bidikov : slides :)
15:02:38 From Hank Nussbacher : ed is not watching the chat
15:02:40 From Markus Zeilinger : Should the slides change?
15:02:54 From Hank Nussbacher : william should interrupt him
15:03:01 From Vladislav Bidikov : well someone should talk to him and tell him that...
15:03:07 From Vladislav Bidikov : Thanks
15:04:46 From Kaveh Ranjbar : same issue William and Ed
15:04:47 From Markus Zeilinger : I think there is still a prob with the slides???
15:04:57 From Nathalie Trenaman : Yep
15:06:06 From James Kennedy : fine as it is now
15:06:10 From Vladislav Bidikov : no pdf
15:06:20 From Rob Evans : https://ripe80.ripe.net/presentations/51-RIPE80-DB-WG-Operational-Update.pdf to follow along…
15:06:45 From James Kennedy : if only we had New IP ;)
15:07:06 From Tom Hill : I'd also recommend to anyone else presenting in the future, turn off your other monitors.
15:07:18 From Tom Hill : Disconnect, even
15:07:39 From William Sylvester : Thanks Tom!
15:07:45 From Markus Zeilinger : Yes working fine!
15:18:00 From Tom Hill : Pls to test moving the slides on before starting :p
15:18:07 From Tom Hill : Huzzah!
15:20:23 From Cynthia Revström : please check the Q&A for the next questions section
15:20:44 From William Sylvester : Yes. I see. When he finishes, I will address.
15:21:02 From William Sylvester : Thanks Cynthia
15:21:07 From Cynthia Revström : :)
15:26:00 From Luna : The slide did not change
15:26:13 From Luna : Now it did
15:32:40 From Kurt Kayser : **applause**
15:37:41 From Tom Hill : Extreme pedantry: PII is the wrong acronym for GDPR. It's specifically referred to as "personal data".
15:42:36 From Kurt Kayser : So the conclusion is to move the RIPE-DB outside the EU to continue legal operations?
15:42:49 From Tom Hill : To the cloud!
15:42:59 From Tom Hill : Wait, isn't the cloud in Europe??
15:43:07 From George Michaelson : Move out of EU wont work: GDPR applies worldwide to any EU subjects data
15:43:22 From George Michaelson : It has an extra territorial element, I am bound by it, for EU subjects in my DB (here in OZ)
15:43:35 From George Michaelson : (Obviously subject to the limits of law)
15:46:07 From Cyrille MAECHLER : Thanks
15:47:07 From Tom Hill : PII is an outdated/incorrect definition by itself. PD is what we're referring to with regards to GDPR :)
15:47:30 From Tom Hill : https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/
15:47:38 From Markus Zeilinger : Thanks Michael! Nice to see stuff from Austria at RIPE 80!
15:47:46 From Tom Hill : I stress, extremely pedantic - thanks for bringing this up and presenting on it :)
15:49:15 From Tore Anderson : That is totally incorrect. The proposer of NWI-8 (me) did *NOT* care about auth groups. That was feature creep from other members of the WG.
15:50:13 From Tore Anderson : If NWI-8 was "my" NWI, as opposed to the WG's NWI, I would have it considered it case closed.
15:51:04 From William Sylvester : Apologies, we had some technical issues.
15:51:40 From James Kennedy : thanks folks!
15:51:42 From Tom Hill : Thanks William
15:51:43 From Piotr Strzyżewski : Thanks guys! Great session!
15:51:44 From Melchior Aelmans : Thanks!! Interesting session!
15:51:57 From Alvaro Vives : Sometimes Zoom retains questions from an earlier session that you watched in the Q&A. If you would like to start afresh with a clean Q&A, leave the meeting and rejoin it.
15:52:03 From Alvaro Vives : This session has now ended.