RIPE 80 ‑‑ virtual meeting.

Newcomers introduction,
Tuesday, 12th May 2020
10 a.m.

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Welcome to RIPE meeting 101. Welcome to RIPE meeting 101. My name is Hans Petter Holen, and I am going to take you through the next half an hour. Or so.

So, I am Hans Petter Holen, and I used to say I am the RIPE Chair, right now I am the interim Ripe Chair, because I stepped down as RIPE Chair on the 1st May but the Working Group Chairs asked me to continue as RIPE Chair, because I had signed on as managing director of the RIPE NCC, so as you will hear later on in this week, there is NomCom working on selecting the next RIPE Chair, but during this meeting, I will then wear both hats, both as the managing director of RIPE NCC and of the RIPE Chair, the interim Ripe Chair. I am from Norway, I am now located in Norway doing this presentation remotely. I am over 4G and I have a dog in my house here so this is going to be really exciting today.

So, first RIPE meeting, that's really scary, right? First day at school you have no idea what's happening, but that's why we are here.

So, I'll try to give you a brief overview of what RIPE and RIPE NCC is.

RIPE Reso European European IP networks and RIPE network coordination centre. So, I'll also talk about the RIPE meeting and how to get involved, and some pointers to where you can find help during the meeting. So I see I got a question here, is something to be chaired on the screen? And then I'll check with the tech stuff here, is sharing ‑‑ if sharing works? I'll just go on, it works.

And, of course, as every school, there will be a test. So pay attention and make notes and then there is a quiz at the end.

So, this will try to be really short if technology still works for me here. It's important to understand the difference between RIPE and the RIPE NCC. A lot of people confuse them, and well, in the beginning, there was just RIPE, and then RIPE NCC came slightly later on. So, in 1989, a group of like‑minded techies met in order to solve all issues with Internet in Europe. And that group thought that they need, may need a couple of meetings to coordinate on IP addresses, lines, connectivity, and so on, but that kept growing and now we are at RIPE 80, 80 meetings later, and we are still going strong.

RIPE NCC was then founded as the first regional Internet registry in 1992. First, this was a project at the Academic Network Organisation in Europe, but later on it became its own legally entity, the RIPE NCC association, as you know it today.

So, the community, RIPE, is open for all. But, the RIPE NCC association is a membership association. The RIPE community creates policies and the RIPE NCC administers and implements those policies in its work. RIPE has no operational activities, while RIPE NCC has many services to members and to the community.

RIPE has Working Groups, while the RIPE NCC has an Executive Board elected by its members.

So, RIPE formed in 1989, open to everyone, and has RIPE Working Groups. That's kind of the main message there, and creates policies on consensus, and if you want to know more about this, you can read about the history in the RIPE document, RIPE 508.

So, RIPE NCC, not just a regional Internet registry, a RIR coordinates IP addresses in the regions, so allocates IP addresses, registers them, makes sure that you know who is entitled to use, if you want to use that term, to use an IP address range.

It's also operating one of the route name service, the k.root, it provides technical training for its members, and also professional certification, so you can now get a certificate to prove that you have received this training and has a certain knowledge.

You can find more about this at the RIPE Academy.

We also have a measuring project, a RIPE Atlas, which is more than 10,000 measuring probes around the world, so you can use to do measurements on network quality in your own network.

And RIPE Stat is kind of a looking glass into a lot of different information that can give you answers to what is happening in the Internet at large. And we do have regional events. Not only RIPE meetings, but also regional events in our service region, which consists of not only Europe, but also the Middle East and central Asia. So, we cooperate there with ENOG, MENOG and SCE, but we also do have membership lunches and sort of one‑day membership lunches to meet with the members.

So, how do you make the most of your first RIPE meeting? Now, this RIPE meeting is very special, because this is the first virtual RIPE meeting that we have ever had. And this is going to be really 
exciting and, as you can see from my fumbling with technology in the beginning, then this is a first for all, but I trust that this will be a really great event.

You can find on the meeting plan, if you go to the RIPE website, you can see the schedule there, and you find different slots, so here we are on Tuesday morning in the newcomers session, and then following this there will be an Opening Plenary.

On the Wednesday, the Working Groups meet. So not all Working Groups are meeting at this meeting, but Address Space, Anti‑Abuse, Connect, Cooperation, Database, DNS and IPv6 are Working Groups that we have. DNS and MAT have decided not to meet at the meeting; DNS have decided to have monthly events instead. So, this is changing the way we work in a lot of cases.

RIPE Working Group has a mailing list so you can subscribe and join the mailing list there. We do shape policies that may affect your operations so it's important that you do.

And when we discuss policies at the meeting, it's important to remember that the consensus is always established on the mailing list, so, it's very important to participate on the mailing list and this means that you can also pay attention and follow and influence the policies even if you can't attend our meetings.

To set the programme on Tuesday, later today, we do have a RIPE Programme Committee. You can see the members here, with Franziska and Maria as the Chair and vice‑chair, and you can also see that while most of the members are elected by you here at the RIPE meeting and there is going to be an election later on during this week, there are also representatives from MENOG, SCE and MENOG and also the local host. This meeting didn't happen in Berlin as planned, but nevertheless, Wolfgang was invited to participate in the Programme Committee anyway.

Brian is also a vice‑chair, but he is also a liaise between the Working Group Chairs and the Programme Committee.

One thing that the Programme Committee is really eager to see is that you actually rate the presentations, so make sure that you are logged into the RIPE NCC access account. It's very easy to get on, you just register, and then on the meeting website you can then see an icon next to the session page and then you can rate each individual session, and you might win a prize and this is really important to the Programme Committee because they use these ratings to see if the same presenter wants to present at a later meeting, they see whether you like the presentations or not, and use that as a criteria to improve future meetings.

If you have questions, you can ask those and make comments and you can do this in a Zoom window or you can do it in the webstream on the RIPE 80 meeting site. So there is a typo here, I see that now, it should be the RIPE 80 meeting site, not ripe The session Chair will read your questions out loud and it's important to clearly state your name and affiliation.

And we usually say that the most important thing with RIPE meetings is the breaks and the coffee in the corridors; that will be very different at the meeting, but do use the opportunity to network with other people. You can do that by downloading the RIPE networking app where you can enable your social options in your registration via the RIPE NCC access account.

And then you can also visit the social room and join the RIPE NCC dinner place.

Diversity and inclusion. That is important to us. And we have had a diversity taskforce working on increasing the diversity in the meetings and one of the things they have been working on is to improve the Code of Conduct. As you will see in my opening, we do have a Code of Conduct these days but I will also talk a bit about how we have to improve that in the changing world that we are in.

I'm going to hand over the microphone to Petrit, so the floor is yours, Petrit.

PETRIT HASANI: I see that we have more than 400 participants this morning so I'd like to welcome everyone to the first virtual RIPE meeting. It's exciting for all of us. I'd like to share a couple of policy proposals to keep an eye during this meeting, but before I do that, I would like to mention the process that we use in the RIPE community and the RIPE NCC to create proposals. So the community has a long‑established process to create policies called the RIPE Policy Development Process, or PDP for short, which is an open process, so anyone can participate, you only need an e‑mail address. It's transparent, so all discussions are published and publicly archived and is consensus‑seeking, so we do not take decisions based on a vote, but decisions are made based on consensus.

And it's bottom up. So, it's up to you, as part of the community, who decides for a proposal. It is important to participate, because these policies regulate Internet resource distribution, as well as define RIPE NCC services, they set up the rules and they set other rules that might ‑‑ you might need to comply with within your organisation.

So, it is important to follow the process and share your feedback.

At the moment we have two proposals going through the PDP which might be of interest to you. The first one is being discussed in the Anti‑Abuse Working Group, and the session is tomorrow ‑‑ sorry, on Thursday at 10 o'clock, is the 2019‑04 validation of abuse mailbox. This proposal asked the RIPE NCC to make validations of the abuse mailbox more often, and to make sure that the abuse mailbox can actually receive e‑mails. So, if you have an interest on this proposal, please follow the session on Thursday.

The second proposal, if we can change the slide ‑‑ is the 2019‑08, being discussed in the Routing Working Group, on Thursday again at 11 o'clock and it's called RPKI ROAs for unallocated and unassigned RIPE NCC address space. So this proposal asked the RIPE NCC to create a route origin authorisation with an address space which has not distributed yet using a specific trust anchor. A ROA with origin A zero is a statement that these prefixes should not be announced in a global BGP routing table and there will be a new version of this proposal to be published soon. I see that Malachi, one of the proposers, has already joined the chat. If you are interested on this proposal, the proposers are going to give an update on Thursday at 11, so please follow the Routing Working Group on Thursday.

And finally, the last one is not a proposal, but I'll be giving a more extensive presentation tomorrow at 11 o'clock during the Address Policy Working Group on the current topics, so if you have an interest I'll not be discussing not only the policies within our region but I'll be looking at the other four regions as well, so please join. And the next slide, get involved, try to join the session, listen, we don't have a mic, but try to ask questions, and, as Hans Petter Holen mentioned before, consensus is reached on the mailing list only, so, please try to share your feedback on the mailing list as well.

If you have any questions about the policy development process, or if you are thinking of changing a policy, please send me an e‑mail at pdo [at] ripe [dot] net and I'll try to assist you as best as I can.

And I give the microphone back to Hans Petter.

HANS PETER HOLEN: So thank you, Petrit, for that work‑through of the policy process. Some of you may argue that that's the most important thing of the RIPE community, but others think that the technical content is important. So we do have something for everybody.

So, there are some people behind this meeting, this doesn't happen just by itself. First of all, I really want to thank all of the meeting staff, they are behind the scenes hosting the minutes, taking the minutes, monitoring the chat rooms, doing the streaming and making the daily meeting reports and tweeting and so on, they are a really amazing group of people. They are here to help you if you need any help and they are all on the attendee list and in the meeting networking app.

There is an NCC support room, it's your one‑stop hub for anything NCC‑related. You can request access to the Zoom meeting, on the social room, customer services and RS reps are there, and they will be available during the coffee breaks and lunch breaks. They can help you with your member questions, resource request queries and so on. They are also available for RIPE Atlas, RIPE Stat and NCC Certified Professionals, which is an amazing new programme that we just launched.

Scheduling and assisted regulatory check if you want to have a check of your registry.

So, we also have the RIPE NCC Executive Board present. You can see in this picture that, on here, that you have Falk; Christian, our Chairman; Maria Hall; Remco, the treasurer; Petr, the secretary, and Salam and Andre. At the end of the day, there will be two social events, one is meet the RIPE NCC managing director and interim RIPE Chair. I will be available to answer all of your questions about RIPE, the RIPE Chair role and my new role as managing director. And after this event, there will be a second event where the Executive Board will be able to answer all of your questions about the RIPE NCC and its operations.

So, RIPE NCC General Meeting. As any other membership organisation, the RIPE NCC is governed by the members through a General Meeting. It's a separate meeting, it takes place on Wednesday, it's open to RIPE NCC members only, it's a separate registration required to attend. You can go remotely or nominate a proxy voter and talks to Alex or Ulka for help on registering and there is a link there to more information about the GM.

So, that brings me to, are there any questions?

SPEAKER: Hi, everyone and Hans, I'll be reading out the questions that we have for those of you who don't me. My name is Ulka and, while I am not a session Chair, I am monitoring the Q and A for the session. If you do have any questions, please put them into the Q&A button that you have at the bottom of your screen, and I will read them out for Hans Petter to answer.

So, Hans Petter, so far we have one question, and I can see from the chat as well that it's a very ‑‑ it's one that lots of people are interested in knowing. It's from Aleksi Suhonen from Flex Regional Exchanges and his question is: What is the name of your dog?

HANS PETTER HOLEN: The name of the dog, or it's actually my daughter's dog, is Japanese Akita, and she is called Imee.

SPEAKER: Thank you for that. In the meantime, we have received another question from Dodo, who does not state an organisation, asks are there any plans to make current policies available in other languages?

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Petrit, you want to answer that?

PETRIT HASANI: I can say a couple of short ones. We have made a couple of summaries available in Russian or Arabic in the past. That's it.

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Basically the RIPE NCC does what the membership want and we do have a RIPE membership survey that we do on an annual or biannual basis, and the last time we did this survey we also did the survey in multiple languages and allowed for the respondents to answer in their own language, not of course all possible languages but some of the major ones in the region. So, this is something we definitely look into, and of course translations had some complications but it's really important to us that policies are available to all of the community, so this is definitely something that we should look more into.

SPEAKER: Hans Petter, we are now an additional comment from Dodo, saying that APNIC has done that, as far as Dodo is aware. I would also like to read out a comment from Denesh Bhabuta, who says "I would like to say thank you for bringing the community together this way."

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Thank you very much for that, Denesh.

SPEAKER: If anybody has any more questions, I would like to add please type in your name and the name of your organisation and put it in the Q & A and I can read it out for the panelists. And I don't see any more questions for now. Thank you.


SPEAKER: Wait, We have one more question, sorry. It happens every time I think we're done, there is one more.

Michael Kafka saying: "I'll be presenting a lightning talk, can it be done via Zoom?"

HANS PETTER HOLEN: I'm not sure I'm the right one to answer that, but I believe the answer is yes, definitely. I'm presenting now via Zoom and I believe that's the way we're doing it through the whole meeting.

SPEAKER: Thank you. Jordi Palet is adding a comment saying the APNIC situation with translations is very different, also translations create trouble. If done, it should be clear that only the English version is the right one.

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Thank you for that feedback. It's a very important point. And it's a delicate balance between making them easily accessible but also make sure that everybody gets the same exact message.

SPEAKER: We have a comment from Cynthia Revstrom, who says ‑‑ just another thank you to Hans Petter for excellent work as Chair.

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Thank you very much for that, and even though I have been Chair alone, I really want to extend the credit to the help that I have gotten from RIPE NCC staff in doing this job, so, it's not a solo run. This is really community work. Thank you.

ULKA ATHALE: Falk is asking: "Hello everyone, how many people are in the room?"

HANS PETTER HOLEN: I'm not sure I can see that, so maybe somebody can ‑‑ on the top of my screen, it says 453.

ULKA ATHALE: Thank you, I think I have covered the questions and apologies if I missed anyone's questions. Thank you.

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Okay. So thank you very much for that. So that brings us not to the end, but to the quiz.

So, I'll hand over to the Kahoot master! So, who was going to take you through the Kahoot here?

SPEAKER: You should have the chat right now, so you can easily just click on the URL enter the game pin and you will have to go to or you can use the Kahoot app, so you can do both. It's seven questions about Hans Petter's presentation. Don't forget to put your registration number and your nickname if you want to win a prize, and you can do it in your own time, and you have until 12 p.m. eastern time to do it. So that's basically it. You have all the detail in the chat right now.

HANS PETTER HOLEN: Okay. So, thank you very much, Boris, and that brings me to my final slide here.

Class dismissed, and make sure that you complete your Kahoot and there may even be prizes to win for the best answers.

So thank you very much everybody.

(End of newcomers' session)

(Coffee break)