10:02 < camin_ChatMonitor> Hi everyone, I'm Chris Amin from the RIPE NCC. If you have questions/comments for the presenter and want the Session Chair to read it out, please write it here stating your name/affiliation and I will copy/paste it in the Zoom Q&A. Keep in mind that there may be up to a 30 second delay for remote participants, so it's better to get your questions in before the question period begins.
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10:03 < camin_ChatMonitor> Doubly important
10:07 < amd2-ripe> that deep sigh says a lot :-)
10:08 < amd2-ripe> and I absolutely agree
10:09 < DanielKarrenbergRIPENCC> About the sigh: from experience i can say that it helps to express support for the chairs, either in public or in private. If we do not do that we may end up without people willing to serve the community.
10:10 < leovegoda> @DFK +1
10:10 < amd2-ripe> I do believe a very delicate situation was handled well, I have a hard time comming up with a better way of dealing with what was
10:11 < DanielKarrenbergRIPENCC> I, for one, appreciate the excellent job Brian and the other co-chairs do!
10:12 < ivanbev-30931> hear hear, DanielKarrenbergRIPENCC
10:12 < luna> this proposal sounds, fair for what i heard so far
10:13 < luna> *from
10:13 < briann-1213> Thank you all.
10:14 < DanielKarrenbergRIPENCC> briann: since you started 'daniel can write a procedure for that', i will start calling this the 'brian sigh' ;-)
10:15 < luna> Skype sounds :P
10:15 < briann-1213> DanielKarrenbergRIPENCC: Turn about is fair play. :)
10:25 < tknecht> Tobias Knecht - speaking for myself. The burden of reporting Abuse can not put on the Reporter/Victim of the Abuse.
10:27 < Axu-AS197032> "if nobody reports a crime, then it's a victimless crime"
10:27 < ripe_414> We write abuse emails for more than 15 years and got only 2 (!) responses back in this time!
10:28 < camin_ChatMonitor> @tknecht: I have pasted your comment to Zoom
10:34 < amd2-ripe> wouldn't abuse reporting "naturally" flow through CERT/CIRT infrastructure ?
10:34 < phessler> ripe_414: I see slightly better, but still single digit percentages of responses over time
10:35 < amd2-ripe> but the main issue is giving those point of contacts that work
10:35 < phessler> and more importantly, a lot of networks still allow the same abuse from the same sources after several weeks
10:35 < Axu-AS197032> amd2-ripe: sure, in countries that have functional cert infrastructure
10:37 < amd2-ripe> hmm
10:42 * Axu-AS197032 applauds.
10:42 * amd2-ripe applauds.
10:43 * luna claps
10:43 * FredH claps a bit late
10:43 * lsawyer__ARIN_AC claps far too late
10:43 * iocc claps latest
10:43 * amd2-ripe claps again because he suddenly thinks he missed out on a second thing
10:44 < luna> starts end of September i read
10:45 < luna> thanks for today :)
10:45 < lsawyer__ARIN_AC> thanks, brian et al
10:45 < tknecht> Thank you all!
10:45 * amd2-ripe accidentally negates gravity
10:45 < briann-1213> Thank you all!
10:46 < luna> #routing next in 15 minutes
10:46 < camin_ChatMonitor> The session has finished. The next session will be #routing at 11:00 +0200
[ZOOM CHAT LOGS]
10:00:37 From Chris Amin : Hi everyone, I'm Chris Amin from the RIPE NCC. If you have a question/comment and you want it to be read it out, please write it in the Q&A window stating your name/affiliation. The chat window is meant for discussion ONLY. Please remember to select 'all panelists and attendees' when sending your messages otherwise only panelists see what you’re writing.
10:00:42 From Falk VON BORNSTAEDT : Good morning!
10:00:50 From Chris Amin : tldr; questions in the Q&A window, with your affiliation!
10:01:43 From Jaap Akkerhuis : This is a post whisky bof meeting?
10:02:43 From Marc Groeneweg : You started already Jaap?
10:02:50 From George Michaelson : The agenda is wrong. It has X AOB and it is always Z AOB
10:02:52 From Randy Bush Randy Bush : @jaap: dutch post?
10:03:41 From Jaap Akkerhuis : @Randy, nope, there was a whisky bof last night
10:03:51 From George Michaelson : ITS A JOKE
10:04:04 From George Michaelson : (Sigh)
10:04:28 From niall : Morning, all!
10:04:45 From Peter Koch : @ggm you have to explain it, given the venue ….
10:05:45 From Carlos Friacas : One does turn off notifications when projecting/sharing screen……… :-)
10:05:58 From Carlos Friacas : please :-)
10:13:21 From niall : Bad UX on Android tablet: now back on mac
10:15:50 From Chris Amin : @michele could you please provide your affiliation along with your Q? Thanks!
10:18:52 From Brian Nisbet : It is not. But thaks.
10:19:08 From Brian Nisbet : I thought that yesterday during the GM as well.
10:23:48 From Luna : This sounds like a sane proposal - Just an invidual sitting in my kitchen
10:25:41 From Brian Nisbet : @Luna, would you like that read out?
10:27:59 From Brian Nisbet : If so, can you type it into Q&A or to the mailing list, thanks!
10:28:55 From peter hessler : (apologies for the discussing in the QA section)
10:29:10 From Carlos Friacas : Brian, please don't try to spell my surname :-)
10:29:19 From Denesh Bhabuuta : So you should be, @Peter. ;-)
10:29:32 From Carlos Friacas : No you won't. :-)
10:29:40 From peter hessler : just replying to a directed question ;)
10:29:41 From Denesh Bhabuuta : @Brian.. it is Free-a-sha-s
10:30:09 From Brian Nisbet : Apologies, Carlos, sincerely.
10:30:19 From Denesh Bhabuuta : @Brian: Kar-lush Free-a-sha-s
10:30:47 From Carlos Friacas : stick to Carlos, please :-)
10:32:01 From Brian Nisbet : Ok
10:32:14 From Chris Amin : Just a reminder: if you write a message here make sure it is set to go to “All panelists and attendees” or only the panelists will see it
10:33:34 From Kaveh Ranjbar : Hello WG, Kaveh from RIPE NCC here
10:34:01 From Kaveh Ranjbar : any policy proposal will have an impact analysis done by us
10:34:29 From Carlos Friacas : Yes, the NCC only handles abuse from their own infrastructure, as everyone should...
10:34:33 From Kaveh Ranjbar : and if it has significant effect on our operations, of course the board and possibly membership will be consulted before implementation can start.
10:35:23 From Kaveh Ranjbar : And “significant” here means it can not be covered by our membership approved budget within a budget year.
10:35:48 From Brian Nisbet : Thanks Kaveh.
10:36:19 From Erik Bais : Brian, Could you read out the statement of Kaveh - RIPE NCC ?
10:36:47 From Brian Nisbet : I will, Erik.
10:40:45 From Markus Zeilinger : We are far away from reaching consensus I guess!
10:41:38 From Carlos Friacas : yes, we're still away from version 6 (Jordi that's the magic number!)
10:41:40 From Erik Bais : *applause*
10:41:56 From Marco Schmidt : 👏
10:42:01 From niall : applause++
10:42:09 From Piotr Strzyżewski : clap clap
10:42:13 From Elger Postema : applause++
10:44:43 From Carlos Friacas : bye
10:44:57 From Piotr Strzyżewski : Thanks Brian!
10:44:58 From Andreas Wittkemper : clap clap
10:45:02 From Erik Bais : Thanks for chairing Brian.. Well done. *applause*
10:45:02 From Nathalie Trenaman : Excellent time keeping!
10:45:09 From Markus Zeilinger : Thx Brain *applause*!
10:45:10 From Bengt Gördén : thanks and applause
10:46:31 From George Michaelson : Hammond organ jazz but no Leslie speakers. Damn!
10:47:25 From Chris Buckridge : George, you sit the speaker on your business chair and set it spinning…
10:48:17 From Chris Buckridge : that’s how I’ve been listening to the whole conference!
10:48:52 From Brian Nisbet : Thank you all, on time and under budget! :)
